Showing posts with label Offer & Contract. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Offer & Contract. Show all posts

Friday, November 15, 2024

No Shopping

A Modern Real Estate Fable

Imagine if you will, a large townhouse community, in a Raleigh suburb.  All the units are the same.  Same age, same size, same floor plan, all two stories, etc.  The only difference in the units is any interior updates that the owners may have done in the ten years since it was built.

And of course, after ten years, the owners are starting to see an increasing number of units come on the market for sale.  Not surprisingly, the asking prices are all very similar, and so are the sales prices.

Now Joe has been living here since the place was built.  But his employer just went bankrupt and Joe's pretty much been living paycheck to paycheck.  So he too wants to sell.  And fast.  First he thinks, well I'll just underprice my selling neighbors, and I'll get a quick sale.  But he can't afford to lower his asking price too much, because he needs the money.  But then Joe thinks, my goodness, maybe some of my selling competitors need the money too.  I cannot afford for any of them to undercut my price, after I undercut their's.

So Joe thinks very hard and comes up with a...solution.

Now Romeo and Juliet are a young newlywed couple on a tight budget.  They've been watching this townhouse community, but realistically it is simply out of their price range.  But they continue to keep an eye on it.  And when they see Joe's for sale sign, they are the first phone call he gets.

Joe  Yes, it is for sale.  No, that is all I can tell you.  First you must sign my Non-Disclosure Agreement.

R&J  Well we never heard of such.  Why is that?

Joe  It is very simple.  As I am sure you are aware, a number of my neighbors also have their homes for sale.  And I just don't want you, or any other potential buyer, to discuss my asking price and terms with any of my competitors.

R&J  Well okay.  Seems unnecessary, but okay.

So Romeo and Juliet sign the NDA, Joe shows them the home, and gives them a very comprehensive selling package, which of course, includes his asking price.  All of which is covered by his even more comprehensive NDA.

Afterwards...

Juliet  Well, it's just like all the others.

Romeo  But it is $25,000 cheaper.

Juliet  Yes, but can you believe how he's finished the place.  We'll have to spend at least that much on the walls, the flooring, the baths, and the kitchen.  Maybe even more.

Romeo  Hmm, let's go back and look at that other unit we really liked.

So they go back to see Fred's unit.

Fred  So you've come back.  Are you ready to make an offer?

R&J  But Fred, we've already told you that we cannot meet your price.

Fred  Yes, I'm pretty firm on that.  But it's right about the same as everyone else here.

Romeo  Well actually...

But Juliet cuts him off...

Juliet  No Romeo, we cannot discuss that.

Fred is somewhat perplexed.  But hey, kids these days.

Afterwards...

Romeo  We should be able to tell him that he's not the same as everyone else.

Juliet  But we agreed not to.

Romeo  So we'll just have to make Fred an offer at the lower price and see what happens.

And they do.

Fred  I told you kids that my price was firm.  Why are you wasting my time, and your time, with this offer?

R&J  Very sorry Fred, but that is the best we can do.

Afterwards...

Romeo  If we could just explain to Fred, I'm sure he would come down.  He seems like a reasonable person.

Juliet  Well, we did not have to sign that NDA.  We did that voluntarily.  Next time we will know better.  In the meantime, I think I'll write to the North Carolina Real Estate Commission and ask them to look into it.

Romeo  Hey, that's a great idea!  Their job is to protect the public.

But when the NCREC gets wind of this, they love Joe's idea.  After all, we are here to protect the consumer.  And sellers are consumers too.  It is none of Fred's business what Joe is asking for his competing unit.  We must protect Joe.  We certainly wouldn't want Fred to suspect that Joe is in any financial difficulty.  That would be unethical.

But we should protect Fred too.  Because actually it is also none of Joe's business what Fred is asking.  Joe should not have the ability to undercut Fred.  Joe needs to price his unit based on his own individual judgment and what he, alone, is willing to accept.  Not what his competitors may or may not be willing to accept.  That too would be unethical.

But why go through all that hassle with the Non-Disclosure Agreement?  No, no, what we are going to do is institute a rule that says our licensees may not disclose the details of any seller's asking price and terms to any competing seller.  Buyers should not be able to negotiate with a seller by using the asking price of any competing seller.  That is patently unethical and we are just not going to allow it.  It will be a No Shopping rule for buyers.

That way, Fred and Joe, and all of their other competing sellers are protected from all those predatory buyers.  And from each other.

So here is the rule they came up with:

21 NCAC 58A .0115b  DISCLOSURE OF ASKING TERMS PROHIBITED
A broker shall not disclose the price or other material terms contained in a party's solicitation of offers for purchase, sell, lease, rent, or to option real property to a competing party without the express authority of the party soliciting the offers.

In a Rule Change Announcement in the NCREC Bulletin, the Commission stated, "We take our mission to protect the public interest seriously and we are delighted with the new rule.  We believe it perfectly complements Rule .0115a (formerly .0115)."

In a new section in the Bulletin labeled In the Works, the Commission went on to add, "Later this year we have a major report coming titled How Single-Agent Dual Agency Protects Consumers.  You don't want to miss that one."

Public interest protected.  Check.
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Friday, March 12, 2021

Four Hours or Four Days?



The Immutable Laws of Supply and Demand

Yesterday, I ran into my neighbor out walking her dog.  Here's our conversation:

Neighbor  Hey, my daughter just sold her townhouse in Chapel Hill.  It sold in four hours; isn't that great!

Me  Hmm, four hours?  That seems irresponsible to me.

Neighbor  But, she got more than she expected.

Me  Well, I wonder what she could have gotten if she gave it four days instead of four hours?

Neighbor  But she was in a rush.

Me  What's the difference between four hours and four days?

I know the real estate market has gone crazy.  But people seem to have totally forgotten the fundamental laws of supply and demand.  If you limit demand, you simply cannot ensure that you will get the highest and best offer.  This is all the more true given the lowest inventory levels (supply) in recent memory.

The worst part of this is the seller has no idea what she could have gotten for her home.

Sellers:  You won't lose a buyer to another house, because odds are, there are no other houses.  Give it a week.

One point brought up in the Multiple Offer Madness post is that sellers don't want potential buyers traipsing in and out of their homes all day long for days on end.  No problem, make your agent earn their money.  Hold an open house for two hours a day  for seven days.  You might not get all the potential buyers, but you'll get most of them.

And you will have confidence that you really did accept the best possible offer.
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Wednesday, February 24, 2021

Buyers, Read This:  Multiple Offer Madness



An Interesting Email Thread

And vital for today's buyers to understand.

These are actual emails that I received from fellow North Carolina Brokers-in-Charge.

Dates of exchange:  Monday, 22 Feb. 2021 – Thursday, 25 Feb. 2021

Format slightly edited for readability.  And to make it easier to read, I am going to reverse the order.  So you can read top to bottom...


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Monday, 22 February 2021, 8:31 PM

RE:  Multiple Offer Madness

2021 is a bit wild so far. 

The top numbers I've seen this year so far are 60 offers on one property and the most I've seen over list price is $100,000.

What are you seeing out there?  How are you managing?


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Monday, 22 February 2021, 8:37 PM

WOW!
 
I thought 37 offers and $56,000 over list was nuts for this area.  When I schedule a hot property, I’m looking at the blackout on Showing time as a gauge of how hot it is showing and the potential of offers that will be submitted.

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Monday, 22 February 2021, 8:43 PM

Ah, thanks for the reply.  Those numbers I quoted are for the Raleigh market.  I just realized I don't have my main signature on this email to show that. 

We do the same with showing time.  The requirement for non-overlapping showings has been helpful in a way in that it forces the schedule to blackout the appointments already taken, and you can generally see how many showings the property is getting, just like you said.


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Monday, 22 February 2021, 11:58 PM

So here's the thing...we have to take some responsibility here for this madness.  Oh sure, we want to get our clients the best price as selling agents, and as buyer's agents we want to ensure that our client gets the house, but what will happen when this crazy bubble burst, when interest rates go up, and people begin to realize that they are locked into a home that they bought in a state of panic.  If home prices and appraisals are not in line with what someone has paid for their home, when and if they are upside down in their mortgage, who are they going to blame?  You know who!!! 

I stood in a home this past weekend that went on the market Saturday with the limit of 15 minutes to show it.  The listing agent provided the wrong lock box information and it took us 10 minutes to straighten it out with Showing Time.  The listing agent noted that all offers had to be in by 8 PM that night.  My clients looked like two deer caught in headlights.  They had literally 5 minutes to decide if they wanted to buy this home for which they would have to overpay, and knowing that it wouldn't appraise.  I looked them in the eye and told them that they should relax and walk away.  "There'll be other homes and more listings in a few days and weeks," I explained.  There was time...the world was not going to end if they didn't make up their minds in just a few short minutes.  I explained that there was always the possibility that a year or two down the road they might be upside down on the home value vs. the amount of the mortgage if things take a turn.  It was like I released the two of them from the middle of a  whirlwind.  They let out audible sighs and thanked me.  Later we sat down and discussed options.  I told them the pros and cons of making  an offer that is considerably higher and how this artificial inflation is actually not in anyone's best interest.  Even the sellers could get burned.  I am seeing that there are more deals that are getting canceled during due diligence.  Sellers might lose the homes they are wanting to move into because of cancellations.  The whole thing is insane.  It's up to us, the professionals to rope our clients in a bit...to calm them down so they aren't in some half-crazed buying frenzy.  Yes, they might miss out on a few homes, but it will give them time to consider their options, to make informed decisions and oh, by the way, if enough of us keep trying to control this situation, it will restore sanity for all of us.  

Am I dreaming here?  Or can we take back some of the control?  No one is enjoying this.  Sellers feel like their agents aren't doing anything to sell their homes and therefore they question why they should pay so much commission?  Buyers are angry because they have to pay so much and they keep losing out on homes so they blame their agents out of frustration.  The whole thing is ridiculous.  We are all feeling helpless but really maybe not.  Maybe we can change things by being the voice of reason.

Okay...I think I am through with my rant.  I'd love to hear from others.


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Tuesday, 23 February 2021, 6:04 AM

Jessica,
You are spot on.  In my opinion the whole process started with our Government printing trillions of dollars with no basis throwing it out on public, bottom line interest rates qualifying lower purchase point clients to jump into 100k more homes, people making short term gains in “no reason stock market gains”, builders increasing the prices crazy with the excuse of increased material cost are the big balloon that is going to burst soon.

People prove again they have short memory forgetting 2000 & 2008.


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Tuesday, 23 February 2021, 6:26 AM

Well said, Jessica.  I have felt this way for some time.  I have advised clients exactly the same.


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Tuesday, 23 February 2021, 6:33 AM

I'm in Mooresville.  Same situation here.  I'm very concerned about the overinflated offers and ridiculously high DD  needed, just to ensure your offer stands out!

I'm also seeing an increase in BOM.  Whether it's Appraisals, issues with the home, buyer remorse after making a hasty decision just to be competitive...I don't know.  I also don't like the addendum agents are using stating 'if a property doesn't appraise, the buyer will make up the difference'!  No!

I'm not comfortable with any of it. 

My memory is not short!  I do remember 2000 & 2008!

Ok, now my rant is over!!!


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Tuesday, 23 February 2021, 7:01 AM

Good conversation here.  I agree that it has gotten stretched to a point of everyone being uncomfortable.  And we are probably due for a pullback on prices and rising rates will help moderate some of the price growth.  But the money printing and markets can stay irrational a lot longer than we think they should.  And a lot of the growth we are seeing in the Triangle is relocations from large cities, the west coast and the NE.  There are many hot markets in the US due to rates but a large part of our pressure is simply not enough inventory for the number of new buyers coming to our area.   An appraiser friend of mine told me what I think is a record so far...home was listed at $990k in Durham and contract was for $250k over asking and $86k in DD money.  We didn't get it.. as if I had to say that :)